[ogWiFi] Public hotspot fined over illegal downloading by patron

[Tracey P. Lauriault]

Thanks Russell!

Can you translate something into english for me that I can easily
repeat - cuz i am that general public that needs some good lines.

Cheers
t

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Russell McOrmond <russell at flora.ca> wrote:
> Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>> We have not seen this yet in Canada and we have not seen the results
>> from the course case.
>
>   I am also unaware of any caselaw.
>
>> But really, maybe they should be suing the phone companies as they are
>> the ones who provided the lines!
>
>   The phone companies are regulated common carriers that must keep
> logs, respond to court orders, etc.  Those providing free wireless are
> quite different.
>
>   If you believe that there is such a thing as an unlawful
> communication between two consenting parties, then this means you must
> support holding someone accountable for these unlawful communications.
>  If an intermediary does not have verifiable logs that reference the
> actual endpoint, then the intermediary would be liable.  That's just how
> the law works, and needs to work in order for the law to be enforceable.
>
>
>   In my case I don't believe there should be such a thing as an
> unlawful communication between two consenting parties.  I believe that
> end-to-end encryption/authentication is the solution to the "legitimate"
> problems with the network (So I can block communications I don't want to
> receive, a choice made by endpoints and not any third parties). But this
> is me.
>
>   People need to put some thought into what they personally believe,
> given there are some pretty hard choices you must make to come up with a
> belief that is consistent and possible to implement.
>
>   If you agree with me you have to deal with a general public and
> political/legal/social infrastructure which is unlikely going to agree
> for generations to come ;-)
>
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>
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>   portable media player from my cold dead hands!"
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Tracey P. Lauriault
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