[ogWiFi] Wireless access for a whole community...How to do it

[Tracey P. Lauriault]

Michael;

If you would like to volunteer with OGWiFi and implement what is being
proposed, then by all means you are welcome to make a plan and bring it
forward!  Others are also welcome to join to work on this implementation.
At the moment we are 4 very busy people volunteering.

4 people cannot be everything, meet all particular needs & use cases and
meet all desires.

If a small group of people want to develop a sound proposal and do the work
with our infrastructure, then we are happy to hear it and potentially work
if it makes sense and you have heard our experience with multiple
scenarios.  When you have a workgroup together please let us know.  But
please do not diss us because we do not do everything, we do something and
what we do do, we do it well and that is why we narrowed our focus.  Most
businesses also have to focus.

Also, we have had service issues at locations where private homes were using
ogWiFi as their sole internet connection.  People were downloading 24/7 and
very high bandwidth use and abuse issues ensued (e.g. games, movies, bit
torrent, hbo, music, skype).  In most cases we were able to communicate with
high users and their behaviour changed, but not in all cases. What was most
interesting, is these users were relying on one of the hotspots, and when we
put limits on use, as per request of the hotspot provider, they got very
angry with the cafe!  They were upset because suddenly they had to use their
cell phone and had incurred $30 in fees that week because they could not use
the free wifi that was intended for short term intermittent use at a cafe!

In the end, we have discovered that people want video, and music and perfect
service, and even the free loaders were mean to some cafe owners because
their level of service changed.  Imagine, the service required in a building
where everyone wants everything particularly when that is the only service
they have!

Bref, if your come up with a workgroup that can provide that kind of service
then by all means come and let us know.

When do you want to set up a meeting to share your workplan and long term
service plan?


Cheers
Tracey


On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Michael Richardson <
mcr at sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> wrote:

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> >>>>> "David" == David Sampson <Sampson> writes:
>    >> The key, in my opinion, is to realize that you want to grow into
>    >> being a mesh wireless network.  Do not try to this this
>    >> immediately, but think about this as a longer term goal.
>    >>
>
>     David> 3-5 years is our outlook curently... I will have to research
>    David> how we could exploit mesh with "obsolete" hardware. Remember
>
>  In three 3 years, you can have today's hardware as "3-year old junk" :-)
>
>    David> Better than 3 computers sharing dial up. Anything is better
>    David> than nothing. And often these groups start with no computers
>    David> and no internet.  Refer back to long term goal.
>
> Let's see:
>  3 computers on 56K dialup is a 18kbits/s each.
>  230 computers on 7M DSL is 30kbits/s each.
>
> Only you rarely actually get 7M out of commodity ISPs like Bell, and you
> can see that if you get half that, dialup was better.  And, once it's
> "always on" the demand for bandwidth and issues with p2p dominating
> everything else goes up.
>
>    >> Don't. ogwifi already provides that functionality with wifidog.
>    >> Alternatively, you may want to consider "fon.com".
>
>     David> I definitely want to work something with OGWIFI if the group
>    David> is interested. I figure the lack of funds to pay membership
>    David> will keep that in the long term future, but something we can
>    David> start forging right away IMHO.
>
> I've stated repeatedly that ogwifi is shooting itself in the foot by not
> having multiple classes of membership.
>
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Tracey P. Lauriault
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